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You may be interested in what David Martin has to say here about what those involved have stated publicly and in patent applications: https://rumble.com/v1acoaa-up-to-100-million-will-die-from-cv19-vax-by-2028-dr-david-martin.html?fbclid=IwAR2iolYy005Yi1qFTAz46UfNOMezuNudWl3BbIbRia22XbEZiacjGSo3XT0

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Thanks for the link!

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Tom Cowan and Andy Kaufman are more and more suspect. They ignore the kill shot and diminish the seriousness of situation we are in. This is not "just" the jab killing people here and there, this is a genocide. They need to expose the graphene jab but they're obfuscating and consenting to the gene editing "theory". What can one conclude but that they are keeping anti-virus "movement" back by not engaging in the public vaxx "debate".

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I see it differently. If you want to expose vaccines and the pharma industry as a criminal con, what better argument than to get people to understand that the past century of research that enables the con is all fraud?

In my view, it's the people focused on the vax who won't look at the research fraud who are holding back the movement. If the anti-vax people are successful, the covid vaxes will suddenly be pulled, government and their press will never mention them again, and nothing changes long-term. If the no-virus people are successful, the entire Rockefeller medical cartel, including pharma, collapses, and all it's leaders and soldiers are exposed as the frauds & con artists they are. I think the latter is just too scary for most people, so they really don't want to know the truth.

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David, agree,...but...

The virus vs no-virus issue is the ultimate one, whereas the Covid hoax genocide is the proximate one. We need to get through the proximate issue as an example to get people to wake up to the ultimate one.

IMO the virus or no-virus positions serve to divide the health 'truth movement' in the same way the 911 truth movement became divided over 'airplanes and fires demolished the twin towers' vs 'no planes but rather DEWs, or missiles and controlled demolition' brought them down.

The 911 truth movement started in-fighting over this proximate issue and forgot that the ultimate goal of the 911 hoax was getting the 'West' into PNAC's endless wars in the Middle East with their boundless death and destruction. If the new 'truth health movement', whether it be virus or no-virus proponents, does not recognize the ultimate goal of global genocide with this proximate Covid hoax, we will make very little headway in getting to the ultimate truth.

As I said above to a post by 'The Greatest Ever';

TT (Terrain Theory) has the perfect opportunity to prove their point (chemical poisoning) but they are guilty of the same sin as the pro-virus people: not wanting to admit this is a teleological genocide. The reason for that reticence is they, like the pro-virus advocates, would lose all credibility in the eyes of the sheeple as 'conspiracy theory' extremists, and would lose all of their 'disciples'.

My take anyways. BTW I much appreciate your thoughtful posts. :-)

Marc Mullie MD

Montreal

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Agree that some of the lessons of the 911-truth movement apply. A more accurate analogy, though, would be those who said "accept the official narrative about what caused the three WTC towers to collapse into their own footprint, the al Qaeda terrorist attack using two plane impacts, and just focus on the government action afterward: the wars, the attacks on the Constitution and Bill of Rights, the illegal imprisonments and torture, etc., because people aren't ready to hear the truth that it was a false flag attack, and that the buildings were brought down via controlled demolition."

There was plenty of those people then, and they were part of the problem. As we can clearly see, most people don't care about 9/11 truth anymore, same as they don't care who killed the Kennedys and MLK. It's past history, and people don't think it really affects their life now, so all of the evil sown by those events continues to grow.

And the people who bought the official narrative used the lies to justify doing nothing to stop the evil that followed. The essence of the typical American argument was "but we were attacked by terrorists, so maybe we over-reacted a bit but basically our government's actions were justified..."

This false flag attack, called 'covid-19', is heading in the same direction, for the same reasons. Twenty years from now most people won't care if there was a real virus or not. They'll just be glad it's in the past, and they'll have new worries about the latest false flag attack.

The fraudulent narrative of 'the virus' is the cornerstone of the whole 'covid-19' con. There's no other issue more critical if the narrative is to be exposed, and there will never be a better time than now, while people are still being killed by the lies. As I've said before, focusing only on the fake data and the vaccine deaths accomplishes nothing, because the cover is already in place. The cover is "well, we WERE attacked by a lethal GMO virus from Wuhan, so maybe the authorities were overly aggressive and made some mistakes, but they meant well..." Case closed. Not one person will be held accountable, people will continue to die by the millions from the virology con, and the medical system will be further weaponized against an increasingly fearful and dependent population.

If people can't hear the central, foundational lie, then they're going to continue to be victims, and there's no helping them. Sorry, but I'm really tired of hearing that people aren't ready for the truth. They're being given lethal injections. When is a better time to tell them the truth, whether they want to hear it or not?

Imagine a government/corporate cabal convinced the population that there's giant, man-eating aliens hiding in the woods everywhere, and that the only way to keep them at bay is if one person from every household goes to the edge of the woods and blows their brains out with a handgun, to satisfy the hungry aliens so they leave everyone else alone. And people are so scared, knowing leaders would never lie so viciously, that by the millions they're shooting themselves in the head at the edge of woods all over the planet, to save their families. You and a few others know that all of the supposed evidence that these aliens exist is fraud, and in fact they only exist as a computer-generated simulation of what a man-eating alien might look like, but the group is split on whether or not to tell people that the whole alien story is fiction. Some are saying "people aren't ready to hear that there's no man-eating aliens in the woods, so we need to just focus on getting them to stop shooting themselves in the head, and we can deal with the alien story later...". Others are saying, "but the alien story is the whole reason they're shooting themselves in the head to save their families..."

People need to hear the truth. The 'virus' fiction is the whole reason people are perpetrating and justifying all of the present, deadly, insane assaults against humanity. It's the only thing that will stop this evil.

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Totally agree.

TT (Terrain Theory) has the perfect opportunity to prove their point (chemical poisoning) but they are guilty of the same sin as the pro-virus people: not wanting to admit this is a teleological genocide. The reason for that reticence is they, like the pro-virus advocates, would lose all credibility in the eyes of the sheeple as 'conspiracy theory' extremists, and would lose all of their 'disciples'.

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Could not agree more.

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Mullie's Law:

no jab mRNA = no virus = no spike protein => chemical poisoning

Marc Mullie MD

Montreal

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Could injected chemicals make your body produce proteins that are identified in labs, though?

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yes, possibly, especially spike proteins, which could be an effect, not a cause of the poisoning, whatever it is.

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That's my guess. It's how they can keep the lie going.

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Totally.

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Totally agree!

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I did a little bit of reading up a few years ago on CRISPR experiments (assuming they did what the research papers claim), and my take-away was that it's anything but precise. All of the attempts produced unforeseen and unpredictable collateral damage to other (non-targeted) parts of the gene. That hadn't changed come 2020, and then all of a sudden we get Warp Speed that in a few months delivers precise, safe & effective gene editing. Sure.

We know the glaring questions: If they can make a gene-editing mRNA vax, why isn't there any mRNA in the vaxes? And considering that those at the top know the whole virus story is weak hypothesis at best, why would they spend billions developing a technology to 'protect' people from..., what, a fictional virus? None of it makes any sense. The whole thing is a massive con. It's always been about injecting long-lasting poisons to weaken the subjects, and the only thing that's changed is they've come up with a new generation of poisons.

That's depressing, reading about attorney Todd. Agree, those armed services members deserve the best representation, and instead they get dopey who missed the lessons in law school about only saying what you can prove. It seems like he's trying to look like a nut. Might be interesting to find out who's really paying him.

Regarding claims of gene-editing and patents, I'm reminded of the long-term genetics study of the Icelandic population, that's been going for maybe 30 years or so. It's well-established that people's genetic code changes slightly over time, some people more than others.

And I'd wager that if a person is poisoned with a novel brew that their body has never seen before, there will be a little genetic update when their body has learned how to clear the new toxins (assuming they survive and recover).

So does the pharma company have a legal claim to the genetic update that resulted from them fraudulently poisoning you? I hate to say it, but as corrupt as the US legal system has become, the answer is probably "yes". Even if you could find an honest attorney or prosecutor, no court would allow the evidence to be presented that could prove it's all a con.

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Crispr never worked. They claim it does, but how do we know that the so called plant modifications done with it were not done just by breeding plants, which works and has been done for a long long time?

I forget when, but the stupid USA patent system allowed companies to patent life, if it was manually edited. That's why they have to claim the hybridization of plants etc was caused by a mythological tech called crispr.

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Sep 8, 2022·edited Sep 8, 2022

All these doctors who came out of the woodwork at the start of 2020 are suspect. Madej, Kaufman and maybe even Cowan (although I can’t recall if he was a member as well) are all new agers associated with “The academy of Divine Knowledge”. The fact that they pal around with known shills is enough for me to write them off. This “no virus” bullcrap (whether it’s true or not) is right up the alley of intelligence agencies and is reminiscent of how the Illuminati hoax got started with the discordians (operation mindfuck) back in the damn 60s.

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Sep 23, 2022·edited Sep 23, 2022

Whether viruses exist or not is perhaps a tiny detail in the destruction of the economy and the coming police state blamed on viruses. Just do your homework. You might be surprised at what your ignorance is not telling.

Small detail but an important one.

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Ignorance is thinking you’ve got it all figured out just because you’ve watched videos of so-called authority figures on Rumble. If you can’t discern the nuance that I’ve brought to the discussion with my comment then you have huge blind spots.

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"whether it's true or not"?

Wow, so it seems you don't really care that it's true, you just think it shouldn't be brought to light because that would somehow benefit the people running the con?

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If these injections don't contain genetic material it fits with the *no such thing as a virus*. The genetic material was touted as inducing the body to make the same spike protein as is in the virus.

If there's no such thing as a virus then there's no such thing as its spike protein, so it follows that the injections can't make something that never existed.

What have these virologists been doing all these years.

I remember senior level at school where biology was all about genetics, so biologists will definitely be playing around with DNA, but what's keeping the virology club going.

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Just because we don’t know the exact causal mechanism doesn’t mean there isn’t something being transmitted. I agree that mainstream virology is flawed and covid is fake but that doesn’t mean the common cold and potentially other transmissible ailments are all fake as well.

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